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	<title>Comments on: Inside PR #44 &#8211; Tuesday, January 30, 2007</title>
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	<description>Exploring the state of public relations</description>
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		<title>By: Jamey Shiels</title>
		<link>http://www.insidepr.ca/index.php/2007/01/30/inside-pr-44-tuesday-january-30-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-20813</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey Shiels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To further prove the importance of this conversation:

http://gregverdino.typepad.com/greg_verdinos_blog/

Forresters uses the term social computing when they mean social media!
Yikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To further prove the importance of this conversation:</p>
<p><a href="http://gregverdino.typepad.com/greg_verdinos_blog/" rel="nofollow">http://gregverdino.typepad.com/greg_verdinos_blog/</a></p>
<p>Forresters uses the term social computing when they mean social media!<br />
Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamey Shiels</title>
		<link>http://www.insidepr.ca/index.php/2007/01/30/inside-pr-44-tuesday-january-30-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-20548</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey Shiels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m listening to your discussion on the future of social media, excellent topic, thanks Collin. I think you guys made some very important statements. Currently there is a lack of leadership that is moving social media into a prominent position. I consider groups like you guys, FIR, Jaffe, Chapman, etc as the pioneers/champions and momentum is building. I think we need more leaders to get us to the tipping point for social media where it becomes common for agencies to push the concepts with clients buying in. As you pointed out, this will ultimately result in a change in the fundamentals of marketing. 

I also think it will be a blend of disciplines. I work in the interactive department of a full service agency and in our attempts to promote social media concepts to clients you have the Interactive, PR and Marketing guys making the pitch. Each brings key components to the table for a successful social media campaign. 

Another interesting point you made was that you feel the medium may not be for selling. For social media to really change the fundamentals of marketing, and for companies to get on board, there has to be some component that creates action; action that can be tracked or reviewed in some sense. 

Thanks again for the conversation. You&#039;ve really hit some strong points for me of late and have lit a fire that is pushing me to champion social media within my organization. My minds racing!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m listening to your discussion on the future of social media, excellent topic, thanks Collin. I think you guys made some very important statements. Currently there is a lack of leadership that is moving social media into a prominent position. I consider groups like you guys, FIR, Jaffe, Chapman, etc as the pioneers/champions and momentum is building. I think we need more leaders to get us to the tipping point for social media where it becomes common for agencies to push the concepts with clients buying in. As you pointed out, this will ultimately result in a change in the fundamentals of marketing. </p>
<p>I also think it will be a blend of disciplines. I work in the interactive department of a full service agency and in our attempts to promote social media concepts to clients you have the Interactive, PR and Marketing guys making the pitch. Each brings key components to the table for a successful social media campaign. </p>
<p>Another interesting point you made was that you feel the medium may not be for selling. For social media to really change the fundamentals of marketing, and for companies to get on board, there has to be some component that creates action; action that can be tracked or reviewed in some sense. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the conversation. You&#8217;ve really hit some strong points for me of late and have lit a fire that is pushing me to champion social media within my organization. My minds racing!!</p>
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		<title>By: collin</title>
		<link>http://www.insidepr.ca/index.php/2007/01/30/inside-pr-44-tuesday-january-30-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-18280</link>
		<dc:creator>collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a thorough examination of my call in this weeks edition (#44) of insidePR. 

I think there is more room for discussion on this topic of leadership in social media. Perhaps Dave said it best in waiting to see what happens. I think we all have to drop some prejudice of each others disciplines and embrace this change. We know that advertising is a bulky expensive way to build a brand and/or delver a message.  We also know that PR alone cannot sustain a brand. Social Media may be the holy grail we have all been seeking, and I look forward to see where it takes us. 

One thing is for certain, at least in Toronto... PR is way more ahead of the social media curve than the ad folks are, however the ad folks see a broader potential in the tools than currently discussed in most PR social outlets. 

What a great discussion. 
cheers
collin douma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a thorough examination of my call in this weeks edition (#44) of insidePR. </p>
<p>I think there is more room for discussion on this topic of leadership in social media. Perhaps Dave said it best in waiting to see what happens. I think we all have to drop some prejudice of each others disciplines and embrace this change. We know that advertising is a bulky expensive way to build a brand and/or delver a message.  We also know that PR alone cannot sustain a brand. Social Media may be the holy grail we have all been seeking, and I look forward to see where it takes us. </p>
<p>One thing is for certain, at least in Toronto&#8230; PR is way more ahead of the social media curve than the ad folks are, however the ad folks see a broader potential in the tools than currently discussed in most PR social outlets. </p>
<p>What a great discussion.<br />
cheers<br />
collin douma</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
		<link>http://www.insidepr.ca/index.php/2007/01/30/inside-pr-44-tuesday-january-30-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-18022</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Keliher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 00:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mention, guys. I&#039;m looking forward to listening to the podcast. If you&#039;re planning on going, I hope to see you in Vegas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention, guys. I&#8217;m looking forward to listening to the podcast. If you&#8217;re planning on going, I hope to see you in Vegas!</p>
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