Inside PR audio comment: Joe Thornley on Crispy News

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Joe Thornley has dropped in with an audio comment to give us his take on Constantin Basturea‘s latest initiative, Crispy News.
I had a look at the site recently and thought it was another interesting way to skim through the latest and greatest new posts in the PR blogosphere.

If you don’t know Constantin, he’s the volunteer behind The New PR Wiki and the Pub Sub PR Community list and now this. Does he ever sleep?

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Inside PR #12 – Monday, June 19, 2006

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So much for our 30-minute rule…we blew it out of the water this week, clocking in at 43 minutes before we close the show with a track from the new band Fair Ground. We had an embarrassment of riches with a lot of comments and feedback this week, so we got thrown off. We’ll tighten it up and get back to as close to 30 minutes as we can in future episodes. Hopefully the show notes will help you navigate to the parts that interest you the most.

Please keep the comments coming through the blog and don’t be shy about dropping us an audio comment (Waxmail works well) or regular e-mail to [email protected], or call our new comment line: 206-600-4741.

You can listen to the show with the player above or download or subscribe with the links in the show blog’s sidebar.

Show Notes:

0:28 Terry opens the show and notes the comment line is active and awaiting your calls. 206-600-4741

1:20 David talks about posting the audio comments to the blog as they are received as opposed to saving them up for the weekly podcast. What do the listeners think?

7:24 Tac Anderson audio comment about the necessity of PR people to know about and actually blog themselves. David and Terry discuss the value of learning about blogging and podcasting first-hand, but also recognize that it’s not realistic to expect that every PR person will or should become a blogger/podcaster themselves.

15:24 Joe Thornley calls with congratulations on our 10th podcast and summarizes his visits to the mesh, Counselor’s Academy and IABC conferences and notes the differences in interest in and uptake for social media at each. Joe blogged all three on ProPR.

19:02 Terry notes that the PRSA has started a blog…and called it For Immediate Release (whoops!)

20:43 Terry announces that comments from Mitch Joel and David Phillips are available on the Inside PR blog.

21:15 Terry references a string of e-mails that circulated among marketing and PR podcasters starting with Joe Jaffe who advised that he had nominated everyone for a Marketing Sherpa award. The e-mails were flying as discussions of a central blog to aggregate all the podcasts and a possible names for the group were floated.

23:03 Dave came up with an acronym for the group–iCAMP (International Communications and Marketing Podcasters), but Joe Jaffe’s CAPOW (Communications and Advertising Podcasters Of the World) is pure brilliance.

25:33 Dave mentions that Shel Holtz was to make sure that Donna Papacosta and Heidi Miller are included in CAPOW.

25:40 Dave talks about visiting Halifax, Nova Scotia to talk at the Atlantic Communications Forum on June 20/21. Dave will be presenting on social media and blogs.

26:38 Terry will be attending Podcasters Across Borders in Kingston, Ontario where he will also meet with CC Chapman to record our first mash-up.

27:38 Dave mentions that he has received a track from the band Fair Ground.
29:08 Terry and Dave discuss the bain of the agency person’s existence: billing our time/doing timesheets. We chat about fee-for-service, retainer, value-billing and coming in under-budget.

38:10 Dave introduces Chris Clarke’s weekly segment on his entry into the PR agency world. This week he talks about his first two-weeks at Thornley Fallis.

42:08 Dave closes the show and reminds the listeners to leave their comments on the Inside PR blog, via e-mail at [email protected] or by using the comment line at 206-600-4741.

42:34 Dave asks for feedback on the comments being posted on the blog and not exclusively on the podcast.

42:48 Dave introduces the Fair Ground track “Down In It.” Vote for it on their site if you like it.

Intro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

More audio comments for IPR 11

Mitch Joel and his thoughts on educating PR students on social media

Tac Anderson on our challenges with the comment line and his feelings that all PR pros should be blogging

David Phillips on the evolution of the Web and its impact on communications
(Select which comment you want to play from the links below by hitting “Play Now” and then hit play on the flash player.)

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Audio comments: IPR 11

Thought I’d do a little forward-thinking test using the podPress plug-in on our WordPress blog. I figured there is no good reason that we should hold on to our audio comments that come in via Waxmail or through our comment line for the podcast. Why not post them as they come in?

So here’s one from Joe Thornley received following IPR 11:
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The question then becomes do we still include them as part of the show for our listener community, or do we just point people to the blog to hear the comments they feel like listening to?

I’m trying to force myself to think about podcasts differently from weekly radio programs. Is it a show? Is it a program? Are Terry and I co-hosts with listeners, or are we co-facilitators to a community (a fantastic Holzism)? Does the date matter? Should we even discuss time-bound news given that the podcast lives forever and the story has already been told in real time in the blogosphere?

What do you, the listeners, er…, community think?

Inside PR #10 – Monday, June 5, 2006

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Welcome to show #10. And they said we’d never make it past nine!

This episode featues a discussion about two new Corporate Social Responsibility research studies that have been released recently in the U.S. and.Canada respectively. Let us know what you think about the topic, us or life in general. Leave a comment on the blog, drop us a Waxmail or regular e-mail to [email protected], or call our new comment line: 206-600-4741.

You can listen to the show with the player above or download or subscribe with the links in the show blog’s sidebar.

Show Notes

00:28 Terry opens the show and reminds listeners about the new comment line. 206-600-4741.

01:20. Terry reads a comment from Owen Lystrup, a student at California State University regarding PR/Communciations schools that teach social media as part of the curriculum. Terry and Dave discuss and suggest that the Inside PR listenership let us know of any PR schools are teaching or exploring social media.

06:40 Terry and Dave discuss a comment from Luke Armour regarding a New York Times article that details Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper‘s approach to controlling the Parliament Hill press gallery.

13:53 Dave notes that Mitch Joel of Twist Image (a Canadian version of Joe Jaffe) has launched a new podcast called Six Pixels of Separation.

15:45 Dave notes that Esther Buschbaum of Communications Meca will chair the next Counsellor’s Academy conference in Mexico..

17:30 Dave and Terry discuss a new U.S. CSR study released by Fleishman-Hillard and the National Consumers League and contrast the results with recent Canadian research by Leger Marketing, Ipsos and an article in Marketing Magazine. Dave notes that Shel Holz blogged about the U.S. study.

32:40 Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to [email protected].

Intro/extro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

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iTunes problem with IPR #9 (Now resolved)

Update:  The lastest podcast is now being seen in iTunes.  I performed the equivalent of hitting it with a wrench and it now seems to be available on iTunes.  I can’t tell you which button I hit that made the difference, but suffice to say it’s now working. 

Sorry folks but we seem to have had a slight problem uploading IPR #9 to iTunes. You can listen to the show here but it isn’t yet appearing on iTunes for some unknown reason. We’re trying to figure out what’s happened and we’ll fix it up as soon as we’re able. Sorry about the inconvenience.

Inside PR #9 – Monday, May 29, 2006

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We had a little trouble with getting the podcast up on iTunes this week, but all is solved. Enjoy the show and let us know what you think about Inside PR. We welcome any and all feedback.

You can listen to the show with the player built in to Inside PR or download or subscribe with the links in the show blog’s sidebar.

Show Notes

00:30 Dave opens the show and notes that there will be a concerted effort to dial up the energy this week

01:51 Terry reads comments from Robert French and CC Chapman about IPR#7 that were forgotten in last week’s show.

05:20 Terry notes that Ed Lee, one of our regular listeners, has started a blog and has added his voice to the Canadian PR blogosphere.

06:02 Dave discusses a post Colin McKay had on his Canuckflack blog about the client relationship building discussion during IPR#8. Dave admits to being too glib and clarifies what he meant by his “making clients look good” statement.

09:20 Dave and Terry discuss Google Analytics and how it can be used to provide data for analyzing the success of social media projects for clients.

15:53 Terry and Dave discuss the “end of the news release” topic and the SHIFT Communications template that is being touted as the “social media news release.”

31:52 Dave suggests that Inside PR get a comment line and that it is included in the show notes so that it can be easily found by those listening on iPods in their vehicles. Our new IPR Comment Line number is 206-600-4741.

33:48 Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to [email protected].

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Inside PR #8 – Tuesday, May 23, 2006

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Monday was Victoria Day in Canada and a statutory holiday so we’re a day later than usual with our regular weekly episode of IPR. In this week’s show, we read and discuss listener comments, recap the MESH conference, and talk at some length about the importance of chemistry and personal fit in securing and sustaining client relationships. The show closes with the second installment of “PR words to banish.”

You can listen to the show with the player above or download or subscribe with the links in the sidebar.

Show Notes

00:28 David opens the show noting that we’re again recording via Skype.

1:13 David and Terry discuss an e-mail comment from Francis Wooby in Iqaluit, our northernmost IPR listener.

5:43 Terry introduces comments from Sheldon Rose about the Canadian Council of Public Relations Firms, and Dan Brien on the notion of video podcasting.

(Somehow we forget to highlight a couple of comments left on the Inside PR blog page by Robert French and C.C. Chapman.  Our mistake.  We’ll cover them off in IPR #9.)

10:10 David and Terry close the loop on the MESH conference held last week in Toronto. David mentions that the slides he used in his presentation on blogging are available at PRWorks.

12:57 David notes that Joe Thornley is blogging from the Counselors Academy Spring Conference in Savannah, Georgia.

13:35 Terry and David discuss the show’s major topic, the role of chemistry and personal fit in securing and sustaining long term client relationships. Listeners may wish to check out the following blogs/podcasts for more on the importance of relationships: David Maister, Manager Tools, and Todd Defren.

28:14 Terry and Dave briefly discuss the second entry in a new IPR segment called “PR words to banish.”

30:01 Terry thanks the listeners and closes out the show with a reminder that comments are encouraged and can be left on the blog at www.insidepr.ca or e-mailed to [email protected].

Intro/extro music: Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR Special Edition – Discussion with Patrick Gossage – Thursday, May 18, 2006

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Show Notes

In this IPR Special Edition, Terry and Pat Gossage, the founder and President of Media Profile and former media advisor to Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, meet to discuss political communications among other things.

00:16 Terry introduces Pat Gossage

00:52 Terry asks Pat about his career in politics and how it led to public relations

05:41 Pat talks about what it was like working with Trudeau

07:40 Pat discusses the lessons clients can learn from Trudeau’s approach to the media

08:15 Terry asks Pat about the current Conservative government of Stephen Harper and its approach to the media

12:42 Terry and Pat talk about transparency and revisit politicians’ dependence on key messages

17:05 Terry and Pat talk about the value (or lack thereof) of Q&A documents

18:24 Patrick offers some advice to young people interested in public relations

20:51 Terry thanks Pat Gossage and closes the show

Background on Patrick Gossage:

Patrick is one of Canada’s most highly respected public relations practitioners. Drawing on his 35 years of experience in broadcasting, politics and communications, including serving as the prime minister’s press secretary, he established Media Profile in 1986 and provides strategic communications advice and media training to numerous private and public sector clients.

Opening and closing music by Alamantra on the Podsafe Music Network. As always, Roger Dey is our voice-over guru.