Inside PR # 137 – Wednesday, November 12, 2008

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli record a live episode of Inside PR at Talk is Cheap, Centennial College‘s unconference, and discuss comments and questions from several individuals including Louise Armstrong, Joe Thornley, Dave Fleet, Doug Walker and Guy Skipworth.

Show Notes:

00:23 Terry opens the show.

02:10 Question from Louise Armstrong of Palette PR on tips for how to counsel clients on getting started in social media.

08:12 Question from Joe Thornley of Thornley Fallis Communications on if, with the current state of the economy, there are any trends on whether social media is surviving because it is relatively cheap or whether it is the first to be cut because it is unproven.

12:50 Question from Dave Fleet of Thornley Fallis Communications on ghost blogging.

18:24 Question from Doug Walker of Social Media Group on the difference between what the internal perception of the company is compared to what the individuals are embracing.

24:20 Question from Guy Skipworth of Mediaco on whether you can shape the conversation in the blog world like you can in media.

28:04 Question on how students just starting out can get noticed in the world of social media.

34:23 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #116 – Wednesday, June 18, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, David Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss how PR agencies are being structured in 2008.

Show Notes

00:27 Dave introduces the show

01:06 Terry alerts the listeners that Podcasters Across Borders is coming up this weekend

02:10 Terry Introduces the main topic: How PR agencies are being structured in 2008 or Organizing for better business

02:49 Terry starts up the conversation on organizing to win new business. The panel talks about whether it is better to get the whole firm winning new business or if you should hire one person for the job

04:48 Julie makes a comparison between new business gathering and hunting

07:24 Dave talks about his experiences while working at a larger firm

10:30 Terry draws the conclusion that New Business is best worked on by everyone.

16:22 Dave talks about circumstances where having new business hunters worked

18:58 The panel talks about how agencies organize to deal with client work

22:15 Martin and Julie talk about breaking down position barriers to take some of the tension out of the work place

27:30 Silo structures are referenced

31:46 The panel talks about how companies can be organized around certain Sr. people or the company’s “Rainmakers”

39:25 Terry closes up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #112 – Wednesday, May 21, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Keith McArthur and David Jones review this weeks events and discuss PR agencies and how they need to change.

Show Notes

00:32 Dave introduces the show

01:27 Keith talks about the InfoPresse conference and the launch of influencia.ca

02:43 The debate about social media as a cultural or technological revolution begins. The understanding of the tools or the the understanding of the culture; which is more important?

03:49 Keith gets a dig in at Dave for having issues with last week’s podcast

04:07 Dave references Kate Trgovac

04:53 Dave talks about Joseph Thornley’s  Social Media Roundtable , MESH and speaking at MESH about podcasting with Doug Walker. Doug Walker hosts the Shill Podcast with Dave and writes the webwalker blog

08:19 Welcome to the main topic of the show: PR Agencies and How They Need to Change. This topic was brought up in reference to a blog post by Todd Defren – developer of the social media press release.

09:52 Dave and Keith discuss the “5 thoughts on the future of PR“:

  1. Agencies must become comfortable with the personal branding of employees
  2. Agencies need to do a far better job training staff
  3. Agencies have to explain to clients that mistakes will happen
  4. Agencies must help clients move from reactive to proactive to interactive
  5. Agencies must reconsider their core value

40:30 Dave wraps the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace.

Inside PR #110 – Tuesday, May 6, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry Fallis, Dave Jones, Martin Waxman and Julie Rusciolelli discuss 360 Degrees: All Things Connected, Terry’s BIG WIN, character blogs and social media’s impact on public relations.

Show Notes

00:25 Dave introduces the Show

01:17 Julie talks about the CPRS event she will be attending along with Joseph Thornley

02:45 Dave mentions Terry’s BIG WIN!

03:51 Terry tells us about winning the Leacock Medal for Humour

References:

Terry’s Website – Home of the Best Laid Plans

The News Release

Link to CBC.ca’s Ontario Today Archives

Buy The Best Laid Plans Online

Amazon.com

Amazon.ca
chapters.indigo.ca

About PLR

08:36 Terry introduces the comment from Jay Moonah; Talks about Uncle Seth, Podcaster’s Across Boarders, Mark Blevis and Bob Goyetche

09:34 Jay Moonah leaves a comment about character blogs and the balance between authenticity and having fun. References: the Captain Morgan blog, Story2OH! and the comment on OneDegree

11:46 The panel talks about character blogs; pros and cons. They reference: the All I Want for Christmas is a PSP blog, Dwight’s blog, Fake Steve Jobs blog, Jiminy Glick and Amanda Chapel

An episode of Jiminy Glick

18:13 Dave introduces the topic of social media’s impact on public relations

27:59 Terry Wraps up the show

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Samantha Lovelace

Inside PR #79 – Tuesday, October 2, 2007

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry talk about podcasting and it’s role within public relations.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:30 Terry talks about Podcast Expo.

07:55 Terry introduces the main topic of discussion for the week: podcasting and public relations.

29:30 Inside PRoper English: what

30:30 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR #65 – Tuesday, June 26, 2007

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This week on Inside PR, David and Terry are overwhelmed by PR student contributions. They use one of those contributions as a jumping-off point for their major topic of discussion. Also, they welcome audio comments from Michael Allison, Scott MacDonald, and Omar Ha-Redeye. Finally, Terry does his segment of Inside PRoper English.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

01:20 Terry talks about his time at Podcasters Across Borders 2007.

06:30 Omar Ha-Redeye calls in with a comment.

09:30 Scott MacDonald calls in with a comment as well.

12:45 Michael Allison contributes another PR student comment.

17:40 This week’s major topic of discussion stems from an email from a recent PR graduate from Humber College, Lauren Schneider, who is working at the Royal Ontario Museum. Her comment is about things you don’t learn at PR school but need to learn on the job. Terry and David go off talking about other things that are important in PR that might not be taught in PR school.

27:50 Inside PRoper English: tortuous and torturous

29:00 Fans of Inside PR group on Facebook. Click here to join the group on Facebook. Inside PR are in the finals of the Most Valuable Podcasts (MVP) contest. Click here to vote as Inside PR goes against American Copywriter.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Inside PR Special Edition – Shel Holtz and Terry Fallis podcasting presentation in Toronto

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On November 15th, Shel Holtz and Terry Fallis presented a breakfast session on the power of podcasting to a group of Thornley Fallis clients in Toronto.  The entire presentation and the Q&A session that followed were recorded for this podcast.  There was a PowerPoint presentation that accompanied Shel and Terry but their “conversation” stands alone quite well without the slides.  While the questions in the Q&A are not audible, the answers are self-explanatory.

This podcast runs just over an hour. 

Comments on this IPR Special Edition are welcome through the usual channels.  Leave us an audio or text comment directly on this blog, send us an e-mail or audio comment to [email protected], or call our comment line at 206-600-4741.

Opening and closing music by Alamantra on the Podsafe Music Network. As always, Roger Dey is our voice-over guru.

Inside PR #23 – Tuesday, September 5, 2006

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This week on Inside PR, Terry and David talk about the differences between big and small agencies. They welcome audio comments from Patricia Parsons, a professor of public relations at Mount St. Vincent’s University in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and from Michael Seaton from The Client Side. Also, Terry does his Inside PRoper English segment. Finally, they play this week’s contribution from Chris Clarke.

Show Notes

00:28 David is glad to be back and introduces the show. He invites listener feedback through email at [email protected], the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog.

01:48 Terry talks about an interview he did with Canadian Podcast Buffet, with Bob Goyetche and Mark Blevis. The episode can be downloaded here.

03:32 David talks about a new post on KD Paine’s blog about the top 10 PR firms in the world and their presence in the blogosphere.

05:28 David introduces the first comment from Michael Seaton from The Client Side. David thinks Michael did a great job, and thanks him for stepping in during his absence.

07:45 Terry talks about how he only met Michael face-to-face after recording last week’s episode together. They got together for a geek dinner organized by Michael and Mitch Joel.

08:28 David brings up the Third Tuesday and Third Monday meetups happening at the end of September for Toronto and Ottawa communicators. Shel Israel will be speaking at both inaugural events. You can find the signup link for Toronto here and the Ottawa link here.

10:55 Terry introduces a comment from Patricia Parsons, a professor of public relations from Mount St. Vincent’s University in Halifax, Nova Scotia.

15:15 David brings up this week’s topic: small agency vs. big agency, for students considering a placement.

16:08 Terry mentions the fact that both he and Dave have worked at both big and small agencies in Canada. He doesn’t intend to provide definite conclusions on the debate. He recalls that a decade ago the big agencies had the big clients, which is no longer a rule of the agency world. According to Terry, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. He makes the case that at larger agencies there might not be the variety of tasks and responsibilites offered at smaller agencies.

19:42 David says that regardless of where you work, there are things that stay the same: you will start at the bottom and you’ll learn from the bottom-up. To him, the difference between big and small is simply a game of numbers: there are more opportunities for people in small agencies based on the fact that there are fewer staff to draw on. But, at larger agencies, there are certainly more opportunities for advancement because there are simply more positions to be filled. Nonetheless, the opportunities go to those who deserve them.

23:40 Terry claims that the only way to get anywhere is to take the opportunities that come your way. Be aggressive, but reasonable. Also, at smaller firms, the junior people get to sit around the table for creative sessions with the senior people, which is an excellent opportunity. That’s not to say that it doesn’t happen at larger firms, but it is more likely to happen at smaller firms.

26:20 David wraps up the chat and says that there are pros and cons to each size of firm. He says the most important part is about knowing your job and knowing who’s on your team. There are great people in terrible agencies and terrible people in great agencies.

29:00 David introduces and plays Chris Clarke‘s segment for the week.

32:41 Inside PRoper English for the week: tenet

33:45 From the files of Inside PRoper English: Grammar Girl’s Quick and Dirty Tips for Better Writing.

35:15 Terry closes the show and invites listener comments: through email at [email protected], on the comment line at 206-600-4741, or comment on the Inside PR show blog. Also, they welcomes listeners to the Inside PR Blubrry site.

Music: our theme music is Streetwalker by CJacks, and is from the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

Audio comment: Leesa Barnes on IPR #18

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Leesa Barnes of the Podonomics blog and co-author of the Canadian Podcast Listener Survey calls to compliment us on our use of audio comments from listeners on Inside PR to build community.

(Ed. note: Thanks, Leesa. But we stole this idea from Sheville‘s For Immediate Release podcast and Jaffe/Rubel, but we added the posting of audio comments to the blog as they are received.)

Leesa also puts a challenge out to the critics of the listener survey’s methodology to design and execute their own survey to plug any holes they perceive and add to the collective knowledge of podcast listenership in Canada.