Inside PR 2.58: PR movies and wiping the slate clean

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Just before we recorded the show, I had lunch with Guy Skipworth, a friend, colleague and long-time listener.  He had an in-person comment for us: that we should talk about PR more…

Thanks Guy, good point.

So… in the spirit of the comment and the fact that summer movies are being released, we thought we’d look at a few films that depict PR.  And while most of them deal with stereotypes and preconceived notions, they shed light on why so many people have a negative perception about our profession.

Here’s the list:

  • Sweet Smell of Success – a brooding black and white drama about the darker side of PR with Tony Curtis as a sleazy press agent who will do anything to curry favour with a powerful columnist.
  • Days of Wine and Roses starring Jack Lemmon as a burnt out, former reporter and current alcoholic, whose job is less about messages and more about procuring women for corrupt businessmen. Billable hours anyone?
  • A more contemporary PR film is Wag the Dog, which features Robert DeNiro and Dustin Hoffman.  The comedy revolves around a fabricated war that’s presented as a real event to take the heat off a president’s personal issue.
  • Other movies about PR include Thank You for Smoking and America’s Sweethearts.
  • Martin predicts the next big PR movie will be based on The Best Laid Plans by Terry Fallis.

What movies would you add? Please let us know.

In the second half of the podcast, we talk about Steve Rubel’s ‘scorched-earth’ approach to his blogs: he deleted all his content opting instead for a new online presence on Tumblr.

Gini starts by talking about the strong community she’s built at SpinSucks and why she wouldn’t want to leave it. She goes on to say that you can always recreate the content but not the community.

Joe advises everyone whose name is NOT Rubel – not to try this at home.  He feels Steve can do it because of his leadership position in PR and social media.

Martin asks about the notion of creation and the implications of deleting what is, in essence, a public record.

Joe says the nature of community is that we don’t own what we’ve created once it’s public-it belongs to the community. However, he also commends Steve Rubel and other thought-leaders who experiment and try the extraordinary.

Steve Rubel – do you have anything to add?  And, we’re interested to hear from all our listeners, too.

Do you have an idea for a topic you would like us to discuss? Send us an email or an audio comment to [email protected], join the Inside PR Facebook group, leave us a comment here, message us @inside_pr on Twitter, or connect with Gini DietrichJoe Thornley, and Martin Waxman on Twitter.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Kristine Simpson.

Posted written by Martin Waxman .

Inside PR 2.39 – LinkedIn Recommendations and Social Networks In Egypt

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We’re trying something new starting this week. Rather than give you the time sections of the podcast, we’re taking a cue from NPR and writing an accompanying blog post with each podcast.

So here we are…on our 39th (can that be right??) episode of Inside PR. This week we answer a bunch of questions from our listeners and we touch on the crisis in Egypt.

Shel Holtz sends in an audio question (we love him!) and Guy Skipworth asks about former employees having online relationships with your clients after they leave your agency. You can listen to our discussion about both in the podcast.

Long-time listener Danny Starr says,

“Just catching up on old episodes and the discussion on “making” viral video was really good. One thing that I think needs to be pointed out about viral video is that you never know what’s going to hit it big… and while there are things you can do like capture something funny or unexpected in the footage, I think that anyone setting out to achieve the result of having a video go viral – and we need to be clear that viral is a result, not really a strategy – needs to be putting up many different things.”

The thing is, Danny, we agree with you. In fact, at Arment Dietrich, when we get a call about making a viral video, we always joke internally that we’ll create the video the client wants and then have two guys kicking each other in the nuts so it does go viral. Not really a strategy, but we’re certain it would work! And yes, I say “nuts” in the recording.

And, while we don’t spend much time talking about what’s going on in Egypt, we do ask (and answer) an important question, “Is Internet use a human right?

Hope you enjoy this week’s Inside PR!

And tell us…what do you think of the new format? Do you have other comments? Send us an email or an audio comment to [email protected], join the Inside PR Facebook group, leave us a comment here, or message us @inside_pr on Twitter. Or connect with Martin Waxman, Joe Thornley, and me on Twitter.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Yasmine Kashefi.

Inside PR #193 – Wednesday, February 24, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, TerryDave and Martin are live at Podcamp Toronto!

00:40 Terry opens the show.

01:23 Terry announces that Mary Attard, Cheryl Brean and Mike Kerr, all PR students at Seneca College, have started a PR podcastComing Up PR.

02:37 A big thank you to Guy Skipworth and Mediaco for providing the audio set up to record Inside PR live at Podcamp.

Producer’s note: Thanks for the shout out, Terry!

04:00 Terry introduces this week’s topic: Whatever happened to podcasting?

09:12 Chris Jackson makes the first comment.

13:35 An audience member asks a question about “old-school” PR vs. social media.

16:22 Jason Chambers gives his thoughts on podcasting.

18:04 Tod Maffin makes a comment.

22:05 Mike Kerr talks about being a new podcaster and PR student.

25:26 Martin starts the -30- segment.

29:17 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #148 – Wednesday, January 28, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis and Martin Waxman discuss the social media efforts of the Globe and Mail in light of the unveiling of the federal budget and welcome comments from Jody Koehler and Erick Bauer.

00:26 Terry opens the show

01:24 Terry notes that Guy Skipworth has started a blog called “The Big Canadian Picture”.

01:40 Martin mentions that his business partner, Louise Armstrong, who is a certified etiquette expert has launched a blog called “A Call for Class”  which deals with etiquette in communications and in your everyday business life.

02:33 Martin explains that Louise is certified by the Protocol school of Washington.

04:49 Terry mentions that Podcamp Toronto is coming up on Feb 21st and 22nd at Ryerson University and that Inside PR will be doing another live recording there.

05:57 Terry mentions that Donna Papacosta of Trafcom news podcast left a comment.

06:41 Terry reads a comment left by Jody Koehler in Holland.

07:43 Martin introduces a question from Erick Bauer about how to go about building a social network as a student while still respecting the busy schedules of the professionals you’re approaching.

08:56 Martin says, as Joe Thornley mentioned at Talk is Cheap, one thing to do is engage them in the social media space, for example, commenting on their blog.

10:04 Terry discusses engaging in the social media space, but also the importance of meeting them face to face.

12:37 Terry introduces the major topic for the show: The social media efforts of the Globe and Mail in light of the unveiling of the federal budget.

24:28 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #147 – Wednesday, January 21, 2009

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This week on Inside PR David Jones, and Martin Waxman present an interview done by Guy Skipworth. He talks with Kim Geiger, an intern at Scotiabank. They also welcome comments from Terry Flynn and Keith McArthur.

Show Notes:

00:26 Martin opens the show

01:00 Dave mentions some comments they have received. The first from Terry Flynn, on Inside PR #145’s mention of Paul Bates.

03:34 Dace introduces a comment from Keith McArthur.

04:08 Dave and Martin discuss Keith’s comment.

08:19 Martin introduces Guy Skipworth‘s interview with Kim Geiger.

09:02 Guy Skipworth interview’s Kim Geiger.

20:24 Martin discusses the interview and mentions what he looks for in an intern.

28:29 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.

Inside PR #111 – Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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This week on Inside PR, Terry, Keith and Martin welcome comments from Rick Weiss and Guy Skipworth, define roles in PR firms and discuss promoting employees.

Show Notes

00:30 Terry introduces the show.

02:45 Keith talks about Interactive Marketing Conference that he is attending on May 15th with Dave Jones. Chris Anderson, editor-in-chief at Wired Magazine and author of The Long Tail, is the keynote speaker.

04:09 Terry discusses his talk at a communications event for Government of Ontario employees.

05:06 Terry introduces the comment from Rick Weiss ( a regular listener and student at Centennial College)

05:24 Rick Weiss asks if it’s possible to salvage the image of a company in distress with an excellent PR campaign

09:05 Terry introduces the comment from Guy Skipworth of Mediaco

09:28 Guy Skipworth opens the conversation on titles in agencies

10:10 Terry, Martin and Keith define the titles in agencies and outline some of the tasks that they find to be most important

23:40 Terry starts of the conversation about when to promote an employee. The panel discusses:

Promoting from within
Skills development
Breaking down title boundaries
Setting objectives
Succession planning
Career Planning
Retaining Employees
Culture
Training
Reviews

    33:13 Terry closes up the show.

    Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music Network; Roger Dey is our announcer.

    This week’s episode was produced by Kyra Aylsworth and published by Samantha Lovelace.