Mr Zuckerberg was otherwise engaged – Inside PR 544

On this week’s Inside PR, Gini Dietrich provides practical advice to the PR practitioner on the importance of SEO to media relations and earned media. PR practitioners understand much more than algorithms. And we must combine our media relations expertise with SEO best practices to ensure that we maximize long term exposure for our clients’ content. The cost of failing to do this will be the incursion of SEO experts into media relations.

Also this week: Open Government, open engagement and open data activists from around the world gathered in Ottawa. So did the grand committee of countries looking at the practices of the social platforms. But it doesn’t matter how many countries come together in one place — Mark Zuckerberg responds to no flag but his own. He was, once again, a no-show.

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Inside PR 3.03: The gang’s in Toronto

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When we record our ‘one-track-pony’, Gini, Joe and Martin are all in Toronto and about to watch Gini talk about her new book, Marketing in the Round at Third Tuesday Toronto. Here’s a link to the event Twitter feed on Storify.

The night before Gini was at Third Tuesday Ottawa and the following day, she and co-author Geoff Livingston are at Social Mix 2012. Busy? Why would you ask?

This week’s topic centres on the post Gini wrote about Ryan Holiday’s new book, Trust Me, I’m Lying.  Holiday claims he’s a media manipulator. To prove it, he and his assistant conducted a test where they posed as sources and responded to reporters who were looking for experts to quote in articles. Holiday made up lies that were included in various publications.  He claimed this demonstrated how few media do their homework and how easy it is to bamboozle them with false information.

The three of us agree this is unethical behavior that casts a shadow on the communications industry and reinforces negative stereotypes about PR that, in the majority of cases, just aren’t true.

Joe says that in journalism and PR mistakes do happen or something falls through the cracks, but that’s the exception and not the rule and that Ryan is a publicity-seeking outlier who’s out to sell books.

The situation reminds Martin of P.T. Barnum, a promoter and publicist (among other things), who would do anything to get attention. But it runs counter to our industry and the ethics many of us practice every day.

Gini contends it’s not unlike the get rich quick schemes that people fall for and wonders if you need to lie to succeed.

Have a listen to our discussion and let us know what you think.

This is our last recording of the summer. But we’re not going on a full hiatus. We’re featuring podcast interviews from PRSA Silver Anvils, Social Capital Conference, PRSA International conference and more.  We’ll be back with our regularly scheduled programming mid-September.

So stay tuned… And thanks for listening!

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Inside PR 2.73: Live from the PRSA Conference

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Coming to you, live, from the PRSA International Conference…and we’re all in Orlando together.

It’s a far better experience to record in person than with Google Hangouts and our Zoom recorders. Body language is easier to read, even though we use video, and we can play off one another better.

We hope you agree!

Soledad O’Brien was the conference opening keynote where she talked about diversity and media relations.

She, as she says, is a “mixed race person.” Her dad is Irish and Australian and her mother is black and Cuban. During her keynote she describes systemic racism and how far we’ve come, but that we still have a long way to go.

Her parents were at Johns Hopkins and living in Baltimore as an engaged couple. They couldn’t get married in Baltimore because, in 1958, it was illegal. So they got married in DC and lived illegally in Baltimore as an interracial couple.

You may be wondering what this has to do with the communication industry.

The PRSA conferences have always had programming that drives toward a greater purpose. Our job is about serving more than the master; it’s our job to not accept things as they are, but to communicate views in order to move things forward.

The keynote Soledad set the right tone for the conference and for any kind of organization…that is: communications should serve as a higher purpose.

She also talked about storytelling being the foundation of everything. She said, as PR professionals, we have to tell her stories and then trust her to take our stories and create something useful for her audiences.

It really bothers her when she is pitched by people who haven’t bothered to watch what she does. She says it’s offensive to receive those kinds of pitches and this is something the three of us discuss at length during the podcast.

Also some news for Joe and Martin at the end…so don’t tune out early!

Coming soon: Interviews from old friends and new, including Pierre-Loic Assyag, Dan Tisch, Shonali Burke, Abbie Fink, Jay Baer, Mary Barber, John Devaney, Eric Schwartzman, and more!

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Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Kristine Simpson.

Inside PR #187 – Wednesday, January 13, 2010

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This week on Inside PR, Terry FallisDavid Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the future of Canadian print media.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

00:58 Terry introduces a comment from Will Knott.

04:19 Martin talks about some recent news revolving around Canadian media, which leads into this week’s topic: What does the future hold for print media in Canada?

17:42 Terry focuses the discussion on how the changes in print media are going to affect media relations for PR professionals.

24:55 Terry kicks off the -30- segment.

27:48 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #181 – Wednesday, December 2, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry FallisDavid Jones and Martin Waxman have an in-depth discussion about the definition of PR based on their interview with Shel Holtz.

00:27 Terry opens the show.

01:58 Terry introduces 4Q’s with Shel Holtz of For Immediate Release.

06:23 The guys begin a discussion stemming from Shel’s definition of PR.

18:19 Dave introduces the -30- segment.

22:28 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #180 – Wednesday, November 25, 2009

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This week on Inside PR, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the major differences between public relations and publicity.

00:27 Martin opens the show.

01:39 Martin opens a discussion based on a headline he saw this weekend on the New York Times.

21:23 Dave opens the -30- segment.

25:39 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #178 – Wednesday, November 11, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry Fallis, David Jones and Martin Waxman discuss PR agencies, then and now.

00:28 Terry opens the show.

00:48 Terry congratulates Shel Holtz and Neville Hobson for producing their 500th episode of For Immediate Release.

02:03 Terry notes that Dave tweeted about a recent ranking of Canada’s podcasts by Sean McGaughey.

04:13 Terry introduces this week’s topic: PR agencies, then and now.  The topic is broken down into three discussion points: finance, operations and the work itself (in that order).

27:00 Terry introduces the -30- segment, which includes a Ron Burgundy reference this week.

30:08 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music was created by Damon de SzegheoRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #174 – Wednesday, October 14, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry FallisDavid Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the recent guideline changes by the FTC regarding bloggers.

00:25 Terry opens the show.

00:52 Terry gives a shout-out to Sallie Goetsch and Jody Koehler for their recent comments.

01:24 Martin introduces this week’s topic: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) recently changed some rules regarding bloggers.

10:53 Producer’s Note: The IPR episode Martin is referring to is #161.

19:49 Martin introduces this week’s -30- segment.

22:27 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR #173 – Wednesday, October 7, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry FallisDavid Jones and Martin Waxman discuss the future of media relations as social media continues to grow.

00:25 Terry opens the show.

01:34 Terry opens a discussion about the relationship between media relations and social media within the PR industry.

23:01 Terry introduces this week’s -30- segment.

25:52 Dave closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Sarah Laister.

Inside PR Summer Archives #9 – Wednesday, August 26, 2009

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This week on Inside PR Terry FallisDavid Jones, and Julie Rusciolelli discuss PR 2018, where they take a look at public relations 10 years in the future, and welcome a comment from Keith McArthur

Show Notes:

00:27 Dave opens the show.

01:00 Julie mentions the IABC event Award Winning Communicators Speak Out, where she will speaking. Details can be found on the IABC Toronto website.

03:33 Terry introduces a comment from Keith McArthur of com.motion and Veritas.

03:51 Keith McArthur leaves a comment about Inside PR #138 regarding PR Nightmares.

08:29 Terry Welcomes us to PR 2018, where Inside PR looks at Public Relations 10 years in the future.

08:48 Terry breaks the discussion down into 4 categories.
1. Media Relations
2. Social Media
3. Events, Stunts and Guerrilla PR
4. Stakeholder/ Interest Group Relations or Alliance Building

09:18 Julie discusses what she believes will happen to media relations in the future.

12:27 Dave discusses his thoughts on the future of media relations.

16:53 Dave begins the discussion on what social media will look like in 10 years.

29:03 Terry discusses where special events, stunts and guerrilla PR will be in 10 years.

29:49 Dave talks about the future of events, stunts and guerrilla PR.

32:29 Terry discusses the future of Stakeholder Relations.

35:57 Terry, Dave and Julie discuss where they will be in 10 years.

36:55 Terry closes the show.

Our theme music is Streetwalker by Cjacks and is courtesy of the Podsafe Music NetworkRoger Dey is our announcer.

This week’s episode was produced by Janna Guberman.